Talk:Spawn

Globes

I also like to move the Mars/Moon/Earth globes from Warden to the new spawn, they look pretty cool.... BuckarooBanzai (talk) 21:50, 26 December 2019 (UTC) SwissalpS is willing to recreate them if needed, so we can keep Spawn 2.0 for the 'museum'. Would be nice to leave the old spawn intact - AceRichman

a's Suggestions

I don't like how in the current spawn area, there's a little section that you spawn in that's separated from the main box with a door. I would prefer if Spawn 2.0 has the actual spawn point inside the main area and no little extensions on the sides. In the teleportation links to locations on Earth, we should add links to minor, unofficial towns and to major, but isolated public builds that the builders are okay with people settling around.

admin store aka Sky Mall

If we move it, then please outside the rainbow. I'd prefer to have a prominent mosaic on shops-island to skymall than actually having it at spawn. This under the moto: spawn is a place that links to places. - SwissalpS

I agree. Sky mall is 16 by 28 by 18, so it can fit on the shops island. But with the basement having to be inside the bottom half-sphere, it would need to be right in the center, so it would block the path to the rainbow, and it'd be awkward to find a place for the korlen shopping network. And I think it is best not to put buildings on top of the islands (except for the islands themselves). Large open areas with few or no doors are good. — Coil (talk) 02:48, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Ideas/Proposals Tasks

• 55 from center of middle island to center of outter islands
• 20 radius for outter islands

Basic idea

• Center spawn island
• 4 outer islands
• earth / space / shops / tutorials

Bridges

Currently 3 bridges are flat underneath and one is arched. Do we make space bridge half arched or arch all bridges and put something fitting under central island?

I prefer them to not have arches at all - AceRichman

Same, prefer all bridges consistent flat. With the half-spheres, it looks better than half arch. — Coil

flat somehow looks better though I did like the looks before we tried flat SwissalpS

"Earth" island

• Space for about 30 teleporters
• Teleporter "priorities":
  • Old places: farther behind
  • New/Hot places: more in the front

+ I did like the looks of grass-bridge, but prefer the glass floor - SwissalpS + Let's vote on that.

-> ?

"Space" island

• Space for about 30 teleporters
• Vacuum-warning

-> ?

"Shop" island

• Space for the shop teleporters
• Shop building (move the existing one?)
  • Is the area inside/under the shop platform going to be used for the admin shop vendors? I don't think we need the extra space for travelnets if they are going to be used. - AceRichman
  • Yes, if admin agrees to it, the lower level is reserved for possible admin shop that sells fewer items than skymall. Alternative is to not use the lower level at all and have a telemosaic to current Sky-Mall instead (reducing number of inventories at spawn -> reducing lag) - SwissalpS
  • Current idea with travelnets, is to cover/decorate each with a unique material/colour to make them easier to distinguish - SwissalpS
  • Vendors have a lot of node metadata, inventories and entities, but there are 70 admin vendors at Sky Mall, so they could all fit on that single floor if admin thinks that's desirable. Otherwise, the floor inside the shops half-sphere should be removed. — Coil

"Tutorial" island

• Space for the tutorial teleportes

• Some prominent tele-mosaics

+ Please don't use posters here. Let the tutorials speak for themselves. Books are fine for "How to use" and similar. SwissalpS

Needs

• move globes from old spawn over bridges to Earth and orbital

• move pandorabox text to over tutorial area (facing center island) [SwissalpS made a copy, feel free to move it]

• move red spaceship to over space area [SwissalpS made a copy, near space-island feel free to move it or change materials]

• what about AdamWolf's airplanes?

• Tie-Fighter, Tie-Bomber?

• SwissalpS would like the balloon at more prominent location or linked to from tutorials.

Coords

Space Island

if it needs to be moved later...

bridge: - 579 114 1909 R13

island1: 530 107 1924 R15

island2: 561 107 1924 R15

island3: 530 107 1893 R15

island4: 561 107 1893 R15

Force Field emiter:

545 105 1909 R20 - initial coord, maybe raise it a few nodes and build a dome on it?

Tutorial Island

Centre: x = 600, z = 1854

Entire Spawn

Centre:

Highest (maxY):

Lowest (minY):

Height:

maxX:

minX:

Width:

maxZ:

minZ:

Depth:

Ideas and proposals

news section accessible only to mods on the central platform?

• no, why should news access be limited? - AceRichman
• Guess write access is meant - SwissalpS
• Central platform is small and I hardly ever look at signs after the first time. Also, it's nice for the central platform to be plain grass and flowers and to resist urge to put too much there. - coil

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Train line around spawn?

• no, not needed - AceRichman
• Trains are only visible from 20 nodes away, so that means extra lag for little visibility. - coil

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short chat tutorial at spawn or in tutorial area?

• make a tutorial linked from tutorial area - SwissalpS
• A book at the entrance of the tutorials area with rules, chat usage (channels, languages, messages, whisper), basic commands (/help, /spawn, /sethome, /home, /killme), and links to wiki is probably good. Anything with demos, signs, or more than a few books: best to make a separate tutorial and link there with beacons. — Coil
• SwissalpS agrees with Coil

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Place for non-shopping players' networks

• Interesting idea
• Don't earth and space teleporters provide that?
• Maybe just a section for teleporters to travel hubs - AceRichman
• That's what earth teleporters are -> links to hubs (same goes for space) - SwissalpS (maybe I'm missing something)

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Shopping materials voting pending, please add your suggestions

• technic marble + granite - ?
• silver sandstone, obsidian, and regular steel-framed glass looks good to me - AceRichman
• chi suggested white wool cloud. I think someone wanted to move the existing mall at spawn. - coil

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Should the space between the current platforms be used for more platforms (of the same size)? They would fit perfectly, and would provide space for more things (such as the news/info section) - AceRichman

^ I have built a example between tutorial and space platforms out of scaffold - AceRichman

• I think it looks crowded - SwissalpS
• Also the bridge would have to be built diagonally, which doesn't look very nice - AceRichman

Maybe just add smaller (10-15 radius) platforms, one each for news/info, travel hub teleporters, admin shop, and something else? - AceRichman

• I'm in general not for more than the current 5 platforms inside the rainbow, small decorative clouds I'm ok with. - SwissalpS
• I don't want more platforms, and decorative clouds only if they're small and out of the way. — Coil

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should news section include updates to mods?

(e.g. the new jumpdrive upgrades)

• Yes, if anyone has time to write about the updates. But that section should not be at spawn. - coil

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Signs are running out of space and hard to read. Should move everything to wiki. - coil

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