Gameplay rebalance June 2019 - Revision history

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BuckarooBanzai: /* Proposals */

2019-06-30T07:12:50Z

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BuckarooBanzai: /* Proposals */

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BuckarooBanzai: /* Proposals */

2019-06-30T07:10:41Z

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 [[User:SX]]
   Yes for this
 ==== Dangerous environment ====
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 [[User:SX]]
   Yes for this too and some expensive ways to mitigate effects at least partially.
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 [[User:Rabbit1]]
   Addendum: Time privs: Limit the number of times it can be used per session or day per player.
 [[Category:Rebalance]]

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 [[User:Ruggila]]
   I like that, with a twist. E.g. for each n EXP you can go up to h distance horizonally and v distance vertically. For example, for your first 10000 exp you can go 2000 meter horizontally and 100 vertically. Between 10001 and 20000 exp you can go 4000 horizontally and 400 meter vertically. And so on. The numbers I used are made up, I need to think about them for real. The goal is that a new player can go inside the towns (New Town, Starter Town, Fruitlands). But not directly too Moon. Or Asteroid. Being able to go there would need some "sweat".  The same EXP limits could probably be used for /tpr and /tphr. However, I'm not sure how this will work with with telemosaics, e.g. the ones to the shops, or to the tutorials.
 * Travelnet fare
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   Good thing about telemosaics is that they are already more expensive for long range travel. This could also be enforced even by simply disallowing travel just like how i proposed for travelnets.
 * Travelnet outage/limit
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   Possibly too much to change at once.
 * Train fare
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   Allow players to sell tickets... well no. This is going to be too off topic.
   Let it be as is.
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 [[User:TechDude]]
-I feel like these proposals make the game somewhat hard. I think newbs cannot use travelnets until 4K XP, until then, they can only use telemosaics. I do agree with [[User:sean]] on XP tool restrictions, but I don’t feel restrictions that high are necessary. I only have 4,613 XP at time of writing but I already have a diamond pickaxe that’s level 1. Perhaps mithril should be 5K XP, diamond is 3K XP, mese 1K XP, and newbs can use steel without any XP. There also should be hostile mobs on the moon and Mars of course, but please make them: 1. Not gray or black or white 2. Not shoot stuff at you! I don’t like it when I’m surprised by a mese monster and I get killed without a way to get back to my bones. At least give the mobs a sword. And speaking on mese monsters, change the loot to a single mese crystal, not a shard! However, I totally agree on the train fair thingy. Technic XP is kinda not fair, a newb might work hard to earn money, and buy something like a, say, their very own tool workshop, or a grinder, and get a switching station and all other materials just to find that it doesn’t work. Also, can you install terumet? I don’t really need this mod, but I would like bracers.
+ I feel like these proposals make the game somewhat hard. I think newbs cannot use travelnets until 4K XP, until then, they can only use telemosaics. I do agree with [[User:sean]] on XP tool restrictions, but I don’t feel restrictions that high are necessary. I only have 4,613 XP at time of writing but I already have a diamond pickaxe that’s level 1. Perhaps mithril should be 5K XP, diamond is 3K XP, mese 1K XP, and newbs can use steel without any XP. There also should be hostile mobs on the moon and Mars of course, but please make them: 1. Not gray or black or white 2. Not shoot stuff at you! I don’t like it when I’m surprised by a mese monster and I get killed without a way to get back to my bones. At least give the mobs a sword. And speaking on mese monsters, change the loot to a single mese crystal, not a shard! However, I totally agree on the train fair thingy. Technic XP is kinda not fair, a newb might work hard to earn money, and buy something like a, say, their very own tool workshop, or a grinder, and get a switching station and all other materials just to find that it doesn’t work. Also, can you install terumet? I don’t really need this mod, but I would like bracers.
 ==== Travel restrictions ====

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 [[User:sean]]
   I feel as though an xp restriction on travelnets is a good plan as well as an xp restriction on different space zones... it is way too easy to get a space suit, basic 3x3 tron, and make 10k from mese sold at spawn if you have the right asteroid. Maybe there should be an xp to tool level ratio like no diamond stuff till 25k xp and no mithril till 50k. Just a thought though. Also put xp restrictions on technic system to kind of slow down the game for new people. definitely need train fare! We would have huge player made networks soon that would aid in money gain. Also maybe you should add hostile environments like Rugglia said especially at astroids and mars... Have tiers of space suits: tier one is good for moon but above begins to degrade very fast, tier two is good above that, etc. I love the idea of hostile mobs in space... might keep noobs from exploiting the resources there as fast. Well thanks for reading my feed back. :)
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 [[User:Rabbit1]]
   I read the proposed changes to limit ease of space access. I tend to agree with Peanut. But a part of me says keep the game fun. So I say to limit access to space mining based on XP and release the Xenomorphs! Only way to be sure.
 ==== Travel restrictions ====

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		+	[[User:Rabbit1]]
		+	I read the proposed changes to limit ease of space access. I tend to agree with Peanut. But a part of me says keep the game fun. So I say to limit access to space mining based on XP and release the Xenomorphs! Only way to be sure.

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 * XP Restriction on travelnets
 ** For example: 50k xp are needed to travel to the moon / 100k xp to the asteroid zone
 [[User:Ruggila]]

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 ** I'm still open for suggestions about that one, maybe something that does not get abused lightly...
-[[User:Ruggila]] - settime was actually not really a problem for some weeks. But then "nice players" started to react to "Day please" calls from newbs. And then newbs all the time asked this, as if it was their right. Eventually some people (this includes me!) got upset about this constant stream of "day please". But the whole thing only happened in the last two weeks before the settime priv revocation. However, I can perfectly play without settime, one can always do torches. Or simply not go to discovery when it is night.
+[[User:Ruggila]]
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 * There are still a few block-resources (diamonds, gold, etc) from the prototype asteroid
 ** those need to be removed somehow, maybe some automated replacement
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