Talk:Spawn

Travelnets

admin suggested using a neutral user for shared travelnets (and other owned nodes like POI). Suggested user "spawn" was not available, so "shared" was created for now. Any better Ideas please submit them.

I suggest adding a feature to the travelnet so networks starting with "(O)" are completely open to other players, based on the protection around them. As for the POI, maybe that could be changed to protection based as well? - AceRichman

We need to define how to name the networks: -- Shops ?Shops1...n ?

Maybe base the names on the material around each travelnet? e.g. diamond_shops, mese_shops, etc. - AceRichman

-- Space ?SpaceMoon ?SpaceMars ?SpaceAsteroids ?SpaceOther

-- Tutorials ??? Tutorials1...n ?

Globes

I also like to move the Mars/Moon/Earth globes from Warden to the new spawn, they look pretty cool.... BuckarooBanzai (talk) 21:50, 26 December 2019 (UTC) SwissalpS is willing to recreate them if needed, so we can keep Spawn 2.0 for the 'museum'. Would be nice to leave the old spawn intact - AceRichman

a's Suggestions

I don't like how in the current spawn area, there's a little section that you spawn in that's separated from the main box with a door. I would prefer if Spawn 2.0 has the actual spawn point inside the main area and no little extensions on the sides. In the teleportation links to locations on Earth, we should add links to minor, unofficial towns and to major, but isolated public builds that the builders are okay with people settling around.

admin store aka Sky Mall

If we move it, then please outside the rainbow. I'd prefer to have a prominent mosaic on shops-island to skymall than actually having it at spawn. This under the moto: spawn is a place that links to places. - SwissalpS

I agree. Sky mall is 16 by 28 by 18, so it can fit on the shops island. But with the basement having to be inside the bottom half-sphere, it would need to be right in the center, so it would block the path to the rainbow, and it'd be awkward to find a place for the korlen shopping network. And I think it is best not to put buildings on top of the islands (except for the islands themselves). Large open areas with few or no doors are good. — Coil (talk) 02:48, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Ideas/Proposals Tasks

55 from center of middle island to center of outter islands
20 radius for outter islands

Basic idea

Center spawn island
4 outer islands
earth / space / shops / tutorials

Bridges

Currently 3 bridges are flat underneath and one is arched. Do we make space bridge half arched or arch all bridges and put something fitting under central island?

I prefer them to not have arches at all - AceRichman

Same, prefer all bridges consistent flat. With the half-spheres, it looks better than half arch. — Coil

flat somehow looks better though I did like the looks before we tried flat SwissalpS

"Earth" island

Space for about 30 teleporters
Teleporter "priorities":
- Old places: farther behind
- New/Hot places: more in the front

+ I did like the looks of grass-bridge, but prefer the glass floor - SwissalpS + Let's vote on that. - seems glass won.

+ Not sure about the change to coral for the top part of the bridge, I thought it was decided to use leaves there? - AceRichman

+ no leaves played well with signs on certain clients, that is why leaves were replaced. - SwissalpS

+ Not sure about coral either, replaced leaves because of the waving leaves setting after chi said it obscured the banner. — Coil

+ Can we please drop the by XYZ on all locations? At target owners can inform visitors of the place's founder(s) and history. - SwissalpS

AceRichman agrees with SwisssalpS^

+ Let's keep the wide font and use only the signs with white borders - SwissalpS

+ Please start signs with an empty line for read-ability.

"Space" island

Space for about 30 teleporters
Vacuum-warning

-> ?

"Shop" island

Space for the shop teleporters
Shop building (move the existing one?)
- Is the area inside/under the shop platform going to be used for the admin shop vendors? I don't think we need the extra space for travelnets if they are going to be used. - AceRichman
- Yes, if admin agrees to it, the lower level is reserved for possible admin shop that sells fewer items than skymall. Alternative is to not use the lower level at all and have a telemosaic to current Sky-Mall instead (reducing number of inventories at spawn -> reducing lag) - SwissalpS
- Current idea with travelnets, is to cover/decorate each with a unique material/colour to make them easier to distinguish - SwissalpS
- Vendors have a lot of node metadata, inventories and entities, but there are 70 admin vendors at Sky Mall, so they could all fit on that single floor if admin thinks that's desirable. Otherwise, the floor inside the shops half-sphere should be removed. — Coil

+ admin said to try without xp-gate and shops at spawn. He is setting up already.

"Tutorial" island

Space for the tutorial teleportes

Some prominent tele-mosaics

+ Please don't use posters here. Let the tutorials speak for themselves. Books are fine for "How to use" and similar. SwissalpS

+ the mosaics with red glass above them have travel-loops and need to be fixed or added to travelnetworks SwissalpS

Needs

move globes from old spawn over bridges to Earth and orbital

move pandorabox text to over tutorial area (facing center island) [SwissalpS made a copy, feel free to move it]

move red spaceship to over space area [SwissalpS made a copy, near space-island feel free to move it or change materials]

what about AdamWolf's airplanes?

Tie-Fighter, Tie-Bomber?

SwissalpS would like the balloon at more prominent location or linked to from tutorials.

Coords

Spawn Island

Tulip in centre, spawn-point?: 600 107 1909

Space Island

if it needs to be moved later...

bridge: - 579 114 1909 R13

island1: 530 107 1924 R15

island2: 561 107 1924 R15

island3: 530 107 1893 R15

island4: 561 107 1893 R15

Force Field emiter:

545 105 1909 R20 - initial coord, maybe raise it a few nodes and build a dome on it?

Tutorial Island

Centre: x = 600, z = 1854

Entire Spawn

Centre:

Highest (maxY): 141 clouds

Lowest (minY): 49 smoke

Height:

maxX:

minX:

Width:

maxZ:

minZ:

Depth:

Ideas and proposals

News section accessible only to mods on the central platform?

no, why should news access be limited? - AceRichman
Guess write access is meant - SwissalpS
Central platform is small and I hardly ever look at signs after the first time. Also, it's nice for the central platform to be plain grass and flowers and to resist urge to put too much there. - coil

Train line around spawn?

no, not needed - AceRichman
Trains are only visible from 20 nodes away, so that means extra lag for little visibility. - coil

Short chat tutorial at spawn or in tutorial area?

make a tutorial linked from tutorial area - SwissalpS
A book at the entrance of the tutorials area with rules, chat usage (channels, languages, messages, whisper), basic commands (/help, /spawn, /sethome, /home, /killme), and links to wiki is probably good. Anything with demos, signs, or more than a few books: best to make a separate tutorial and link there with beacons. — Coil
SwissalpS agrees with Coil
I agree there should be something like that, but I don't think many new players would even notice a book, so a sign should be added to draw attention to it, and maybe even move it into the center of the island. - AceRichman

Place for non-shopping players' networks? - ?

Interesting idea - ?
Don't earth and space teleporters provide that? - ?
Maybe just a section for teleporters to travel hubs - AceRichman
That's what earth teleporters are -> links to hubs (same goes for space) - SwissalpS (maybe I'm missing something)

Shopping island seems lacking in height compared to other islands, should anything be done about that? - AceRichman

Should news section include updates to mods? (e.g. the new jumpdrive upgrades) - AceRichman

Yes, if anyone has time to write about the updates. But that section should not be at spawn. - coil

Signs are running out of space and hard to read. Should move everything to wiki. - coil